When Navrina Singh founded Credo AI six and a half years ago, "AI governance" wasn't a category. It wasn't a buzzword. It barely existed as a conversation. Today, it's one of the most urgent topics on the agenda of every board, every government, and every regulator trying to keep pace with a technology that reinvents itself every few months.
In this episode of Made to Do, Florian Hoffmann sits down with Navrina — founder and CEO of Credo AI, advisor to the White House, OECD, and UN on AI policy, and one of Time's 100 Most Influential People in AI — to talk about what it actually takes to make AI safe, compliant, and human-centered. Not in the abstract. In the messy, high-stakes reality of Fortune 500 companies deploying third-party models, regulators racing to write rules for systems that change faster than legislation can move, and leaders who know they need to act but don't know where to start.
What emerges is a conversation that refuses to pick a side between innovation and caution. Navrina's core thesis isn't about what could go wrong with AI — it's about what would go right when we get this technology right. That optimism, paired with a deeply practical understanding of how AI systems are built, deployed, and governed, makes this episode less of a debate and more of a playbook.
0:00 — Opening
0:45 — Meet Navrina Singh
2:10 — What Is AI Governance?
5:06 — Governance Across the AI Lifecycle
6:07 — Building a New Category
7:26 — Keeping Up with Rapidly Evolving Models
9:13 — Bridging Tech and Policy
13:04 — What Separates Good AI Leadership from Bad
15:36 — Existential Risk: Responding to Harari
17:13 — Governing AGI
18:11 — Who Should Govern AI?
21:54 — AI Literacy and Adaptive Policymaking
24:25 — First Steps for Leaders
27:23 — Raising Girls in the AI Age
30:37 — Women in AI: Funding, Investing, Celebrating
33:20 — Final Thoughts: More Human Connections
Navrina Singh is the Founder and CEO of Credo AI, an AI governance platform that helps organizations deploy AI responsibly by measuring, monitoring, and managing AI risk. Before founding Credo AI, she spent nearly two decades building products in mobile, SaaS, and AI at companies like Microsoft and Qualcomm. She is a member of the U.S. National AI Advisory Committee (NAIAC), an AI expert at the OECD, and a World Economic Forum Young Global Leader.
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